darnaguen: (J/E freedom)
darnaguen ([personal profile] darnaguen) wrote2007-05-24 02:41 am

"The seas be ours and by the powers, where we will we'll roam."

So. I went to see it tonight.
And while I'm still not exactly fond of the way it ended, I... I can accept it.

I'm a shipper, I admit, but I still found it quite strange how practically 90% of the J/E interaction and hints about Jack's deeper feelings for Elizabeth and vice versa that were in the scripts, books and even trailers/clips were for some reason cut out of the film.
Like they wanted to make 100% sure that everyone thought Will/Elizabeth were the only possible choice. What happened to the love triangle(/quadrangle/pyramid), I wonder?
The way it was presented in the film made it seem like Jack indeed was only a bump in the road for E/W, that there never really was anything between them other than some random, harmless (well, the Kiss of Death was rather un-harmless :p) flirting. (And yes, I know it was at least supposed to be more than that, according to the writers anyway. Not some grand epic true love, but more like this kindred spirits/deep understanding kind of bond. "Peas in a pod, darlin'".)

But while you can sigh with relief, [livejournal.com profile] audrah, I do think it was still quite obvious that Jack truly did love her, and maybe she did love him as well.
"It wouldn't have worked between us." Throwing half-jokingly his own words back at him.
"Keep telling yourself that, darling." and those sad smiles and the way she leaned in to kiss him goodbye but he told her not to with that heartbreaking, wistful chuckle. Awh.

Oh hell. Now I'm actually crying. Bloody movie. *wipes tears and curses her oversensitivity*
But then again, who am I kidding? I had my own reasons of wanting Jack and Lizzie to at least remain friends while Will (See? I didn't call him Captain Whelp! :]) was off delivering the souls of the dead to the afterlife. Because to me they would have represented a kind of ideal couple, freedom-loving kindred souls and comrades in arms and adventure. Like a new version of Calico Jack and Anne Bonny, my favourite pirates.
After the film I discussed it with Ella quite a bit. She was happy with the E/W ending (though even she was a bit confused about that "hanging around on some island with a kid" part) because their relationship fits into her view of an ideal relationship, I guess. She's looking for safety and stability while I guess I'm more of a wanderer. Not that I think safety and stability are bad things or anything, but I just... need to be free, I guess.
Though I guess Ella is right when she says it also makes me lonely, but "I can't help it, it's in me nature." (Wow, did I just quote Calypso? *chuckle*)

Argh. I guess I should go catch some Z's now, I'm losing my train of thought. Maybe I'll write more tomorrow unless I'm too busy trying to prevent all hell from breaking loose on the NW forum. We really could use someone like Barbossa there, already.
Ooh, or Teague: "Quit bitchin', ye pilsrats, or I shall smite ye with me guitar!" *wicked grin*
Okay, he wouldn't even need to say that, really. Teague is love. \,,/

(Ew! A mental image of that awful beach-makeout scene just flashed into my mind. Aaaieeh! Banish the thought! Banish the thought! O_O)

[identity profile] darnaguen.livejournal.com 2007-05-24 08:19 am (UTC)(link)
Fanfiction, oh yes. Thank goodness this fandom has such brilliant and creative writers. Just a while ago I read this fantastic fic where Jack, James and a pregnant Elizabeth are sitting in Jack's cabin, drinking, snarking at each other lovingly (no, it's not a threesome, James is just a good friend of theirs :p) and trying to come up with a name for Jack and Liz's baby. It had me laughing SO much. If only... *sigh*

And I'm very glad that someone agrees with me because most people I know dislike/hate Elizabeth, are into slash or just generally against J/E. :)
The "wedding in the middle of the Epic Battle of Doom" was indeed somewhat cool idea, but yeah, the couple was totally wrong. Barbossa, being made of awesome like he is, managed to make it entertaining at least, though.

I'm hoping there will be some deleted/extended/alternative scenes on the DVD version of the film when it comes out because as far as I know, a lot was cut from the film we saw in theaters. And also maybe some explanations in form of a commentary or two because I feel sorry enough for those poor writers to not want to go to Wordplayer to bother them with questions they already have to answer daily (and the feminist uproar caused by the Housewife Lizzie ending must have driven them quivering nerve-wrecks :p).

[identity profile] lumenlaulu.livejournal.com 2007-05-24 08:33 am (UTC)(link)
At first I did not care much about Elizabeth. Keira Knightley is somewhat dull actress and there is nothing interesting in her too perfect looks, BUT the second PotC made me like her character, due to the little "thing" between Liz and Jack. Heck, I wanted to be Elizabeth in that film. :) I'm sure there'll be loads of deleted material in the DVD-version.