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So. I went to see it tonight.
And while I'm still not exactly fond of the way it ended, I... I can accept it.

I'm a shipper, I admit, but I still found it quite strange how practically 90% of the J/E interaction and hints about Jack's deeper feelings for Elizabeth and vice versa that were in the scripts, books and even trailers/clips were for some reason cut out of the film.
Like they wanted to make 100% sure that everyone thought Will/Elizabeth were the only possible choice. What happened to the love triangle(/quadrangle/pyramid), I wonder?
The way it was presented in the film made it seem like Jack indeed was only a bump in the road for E/W, that there never really was anything between them other than some random, harmless (well, the Kiss of Death was rather un-harmless :p) flirting. (And yes, I know it was at least supposed to be more than that, according to the writers anyway. Not some grand epic true love, but more like this kindred spirits/deep understanding kind of bond. "Peas in a pod, darlin'".)

But while you can sigh with relief, [livejournal.com profile] audrah, I do think it was still quite obvious that Jack truly did love her, and maybe she did love him as well.
"It wouldn't have worked between us." Throwing half-jokingly his own words back at him.
"Keep telling yourself that, darling." and those sad smiles and the way she leaned in to kiss him goodbye but he told her not to with that heartbreaking, wistful chuckle. Awh.

Oh hell. Now I'm actually crying. Bloody movie. *wipes tears and curses her oversensitivity*
But then again, who am I kidding? I had my own reasons of wanting Jack and Lizzie to at least remain friends while Will (See? I didn't call him Captain Whelp! :]) was off delivering the souls of the dead to the afterlife. Because to me they would have represented a kind of ideal couple, freedom-loving kindred souls and comrades in arms and adventure. Like a new version of Calico Jack and Anne Bonny, my favourite pirates.
After the film I discussed it with Ella quite a bit. She was happy with the E/W ending (though even she was a bit confused about that "hanging around on some island with a kid" part) because their relationship fits into her view of an ideal relationship, I guess. She's looking for safety and stability while I guess I'm more of a wanderer. Not that I think safety and stability are bad things or anything, but I just... need to be free, I guess.
Though I guess Ella is right when she says it also makes me lonely, but "I can't help it, it's in me nature." (Wow, did I just quote Calypso? *chuckle*)

Argh. I guess I should go catch some Z's now, I'm losing my train of thought. Maybe I'll write more tomorrow unless I'm too busy trying to prevent all hell from breaking loose on the NW forum. We really could use someone like Barbossa there, already.
Ooh, or Teague: "Quit bitchin', ye pilsrats, or I shall smite ye with me guitar!" *wicked grin*
Okay, he wouldn't even need to say that, really. Teague is love. \,,/

(Ew! A mental image of that awful beach-makeout scene just flashed into my mind. Aaaieeh! Banish the thought! Banish the thought! O_O)

Date: 25 May 2007 19:54 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] audrah.livejournal.com
Ah, well, I'm still not sure if I want to go see it or not... Reflecting on what you said eariler, I might just pretend 2 & 3 never existed.
But I am happy about the ending, though not about the fact that I'm sure (even without seeing the film) that they loved each other. (or 'loved' each other, as I would say)
We'll see, we'll see, if I manage to think of it as only a movie and put aside my obsessive feelings for Jack. We'll see...

Date: 25 May 2007 22:38 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darnaguen.livejournal.com
Like I just said in my newest post, it's worth seeing just because it has Barbossa, Capt. Teague (aka Daddy Sparrow, who absolutely ROCKS) and brilliant music. And Jack of course, even though I'm not sure if you'll like the way he's portrayed. He's pretty serious-bordering-melancholic most of the time and even more addled-brained. But hey, at least there's a scene with him shirtless. In a way. ;p

(And when I said they loved each other, I meant deep caring which to me is just as beautiful as so-called romantic love. But I'll drop the subject as I could analyze the relationships of these characters ad infinitum.)

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